Sunday, January 22, 2006
Sex Talk No Talk Sense
Original Story
Yesterday i attended a sexuality talk that was reported in the press. However, despite the bright and oh-so-wonderful feeling in people that teenagers are finally getting the proper kind of education and advise on issues regarding sex, I, Tay Wei Kiat, speaking as someone who experienced the 4 hour long talk first hand, would like to point out that the talk was filled with so much misinformation that the only effect it achieved was to brainwash everyone with advises that has no firm scientific backing.
I shall now attempt to dismantle their preaching shred by shred until nothing remains but the plain hard truth.
The speaker mentioned that Pornography can be found in the house of almost every criminals. Pornography promote violent acts and thoughts. Hearing this, i would kindly add on that since toilets can be found in those criminal's house as well, why aren't everyone who owns or visited a toilet a criminal as well. Toilets, you can find in almost everyone's house. Same goes for pronograhy, whether a person admits it or not.
"Condoms are not safe. According to research conducted, it has a 85% success rate." It never sieze to amuse me that to date, i am still stuck with only one sibling. However, the 85% figure is true. By "Condoms are not safe", he was refering to safety from STD, not pregnacy. However, he did not clarify this and refered to this 85% statistic when talking about condom's role in preventing pregnacy.
Each time, he says, a male can "shoot out" 500 millions sperm, and it only takes one to fertilise the egg. However, for a sperm to fertilize an egg (ovum), the sperm must penetrate the mucus at the opening to the cervix and travel through it into the uterus and up the fallopian tube. It takes more than 2 hours of constant sprinting by the sperms to even get close to the fallopian tube. By 2 hours , only less than a hundred sperms would be remaining. In most cases no sperms survived long enough to reach the egg. He failed to mentioned all that, making it seems like every sex will result in pregnacy.
He even showed us a diagram taken out of context from John Hopkins Unversity's population report. It shows the size of a sperm with respect to viruses that can cause STD, arguing that a condom can even fail to stop a sperm, why not viruses. He even continue to add that the pores of a condom are much bigger than that of those viruses and hence condom is totally useless. This, i found, contradicts the government's message of sex safe using condoms despite the fact that the speaker is paid by government's money. Further more, from reliable internet source,
That guy is doing nothing but playing on our imperfect knowlegde of the different kinds of condoms and their properties. He was actually refering to lambskin condoms, although lambskins condoms are rare in Singapore. By instilling fear in us by falsly acrediting a 85% success rate in preventing pregnacy when the figure was refering to STD, and also spreading misinformation about condoms, he successfully discredited the usefulness of condoms, without which condoms would not exist in the first place.
"Masturbation is bad. By making yourself as an object to obtain pleasure, you are actually abusing youself, by treating yourself as an object." Since he is go all-knowing and smart, does he know that just last year the medical community has got ultra-sound scans showing unborn child stroking their genitals when they are still in their mother's womb? They would stroke continuously for some time, stop, and then begin this cycle again at a later time. What's more, this is not a unqiue case. They are reports of this observation all over the world. If masturbation is self abuse and bad, why are we born with the ability and instinct to masturbate? If i want to get religous, WHY ARE WE CREATED BY GOD WITH THE INSTINCT TO MASTURBATE IN MIND? That guy is doing nothing but condemming a will of god.
Masturbation has medical benefits, pretending prostate cancers, among a number of other things. Just google for "the benefits of masturbation" and you will find them. Masturbation allows human to satisfy their primitive need for sex when law and morale forbids. Now he is labeling all those who masturbates as self abuse. Well, lets all stop abusing ourselves and starting raping people then. Isn't that what he wants?
All in all, although certain parts of the talks, such as the video of corpses of aborted babies, the talk was filled with so much misinformation that i noticed i've just wasted another 5 hours of my life (1 more hour so that channel news asia can get that 5 second shot of AJC you see in the tv).
Further Readings
1) Masturbation has health benefits:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3072021.stm
2) Websites that mentioned babies masturbating in children's womb:
http://www.afraidtoask.com/masturbate/WhenMasturbate.htm
http://www.nvsh.nl/Website_Engels/Texts/Sexual_Information/Basics/Skills_2.htm
http://www.sfsi.org/ask-us/ask258.html
Extracts from those sites:
"S elf-exploration and masturbation is common among children and in fact begins in the womb. For example, there have been reports by physicians of the ability to visualize by ultrasound male infants in the uterus touching themselves. [1]"
"Most children play with their sex organs from early life on. Even before we are born, inside the womb, we can hold and suck our penis or vagina. Babies have been observed to get all hot and sexy and have orgasms."
"Actually, we have seen sonograms of babies masturbating in the womb. So no, masturbation is no proof of molestation."
3) I still don't see how IVF which is meant to provide hope for infertile couples to create new life is actually not pro-creation.
4) Quoted facts about condoms:
5) Some discussion regarding Celebrate Life workshop
http://www.spug.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79300
6) Condom 85%
http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2004/yax-394.htm
7) Some debates going on
http://tomorrow.sg/archives/2006/01/22/brainwashing_sexuality_talk_cele.html
Important
It is NOT the catholic believes that pissed me off. I'm a free thinker, However, by presenting catholic believes as if they are cold hard facts in order to deceive, confuse or force the religous believes on those who listen to them is wrong. The talk did not state that those are catholic believes. If the talk had done so, we would have taken it with an open heart and just let the speakers say whatever they want. However, they did not clearly state the source of their opinions and instead attempt to spread their believes to everyone attending the workshop by asking EVERYONE, regardless of their individual believes or religion, to write down things like "I must condemn masturbation and IVF", among many others. This is probably why people are making such a big fuss about such stuffs now.
Follow up
Yesterday i attended a sexuality talk that was reported in the press. However, despite the bright and oh-so-wonderful feeling in people that teenagers are finally getting the proper kind of education and advise on issues regarding sex, I, Tay Wei Kiat, speaking as someone who experienced the 4 hour long talk first hand, would like to point out that the talk was filled with so much misinformation that the only effect it achieved was to brainwash everyone with advises that has no firm scientific backing.
I shall now attempt to dismantle their preaching shred by shred until nothing remains but the plain hard truth.
The speaker mentioned that Pornography can be found in the house of almost every criminals. Pornography promote violent acts and thoughts. Hearing this, i would kindly add on that since toilets can be found in those criminal's house as well, why aren't everyone who owns or visited a toilet a criminal as well. Toilets, you can find in almost everyone's house. Same goes for pronograhy, whether a person admits it or not.
"Condoms are not safe. According to research conducted, it has a 85% success rate." It never sieze to amuse me that to date, i am still stuck with only one sibling. However, the 85% figure is true. By "Condoms are not safe", he was refering to safety from STD, not pregnacy. However, he did not clarify this and refered to this 85% statistic when talking about condom's role in preventing pregnacy.
Each time, he says, a male can "shoot out" 500 millions sperm, and it only takes one to fertilise the egg. However, for a sperm to fertilize an egg (ovum), the sperm must penetrate the mucus at the opening to the cervix and travel through it into the uterus and up the fallopian tube. It takes more than 2 hours of constant sprinting by the sperms to even get close to the fallopian tube. By 2 hours , only less than a hundred sperms would be remaining. In most cases no sperms survived long enough to reach the egg. He failed to mentioned all that, making it seems like every sex will result in pregnacy.
He even showed us a diagram taken out of context from John Hopkins Unversity's population report. It shows the size of a sperm with respect to viruses that can cause STD, arguing that a condom can even fail to stop a sperm, why not viruses. He even continue to add that the pores of a condom are much bigger than that of those viruses and hence condom is totally useless. This, i found, contradicts the government's message of sex safe using condoms despite the fact that the speaker is paid by government's money. Further more, from reliable internet source,
Latex condoms, which are the least expensive, most accessible type of condoms at the moment, are designed so as not to allow transmission of the HIV virus, or any virus for that matter. The HIV virus is larger than the pores in condoms.
Lambskin condoms, on the other hand, are made from sheep intestines, and are now advertised as a contraceptive, but not as effective against STD transmission.
That guy is doing nothing but playing on our imperfect knowlegde of the different kinds of condoms and their properties. He was actually refering to lambskin condoms, although lambskins condoms are rare in Singapore. By instilling fear in us by falsly acrediting a 85% success rate in preventing pregnacy when the figure was refering to STD, and also spreading misinformation about condoms, he successfully discredited the usefulness of condoms, without which condoms would not exist in the first place.
"Masturbation is bad. By making yourself as an object to obtain pleasure, you are actually abusing youself, by treating yourself as an object." Since he is go all-knowing and smart, does he know that just last year the medical community has got ultra-sound scans showing unborn child stroking their genitals when they are still in their mother's womb? They would stroke continuously for some time, stop, and then begin this cycle again at a later time. What's more, this is not a unqiue case. They are reports of this observation all over the world. If masturbation is self abuse and bad, why are we born with the ability and instinct to masturbate? If i want to get religous, WHY ARE WE CREATED BY GOD WITH THE INSTINCT TO MASTURBATE IN MIND? That guy is doing nothing but condemming a will of god.
Masturbation has medical benefits, pretending prostate cancers, among a number of other things. Just google for "the benefits of masturbation" and you will find them. Masturbation allows human to satisfy their primitive need for sex when law and morale forbids. Now he is labeling all those who masturbates as self abuse. Well, lets all stop abusing ourselves and starting raping people then. Isn't that what he wants?
All in all, although certain parts of the talks, such as the video of corpses of aborted babies, the talk was filled with so much misinformation that i noticed i've just wasted another 5 hours of my life (1 more hour so that channel news asia can get that 5 second shot of AJC you see in the tv).
Further Readings
1) Masturbation has health benefits:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3072021.stm
2) Websites that mentioned babies masturbating in children's womb:
http://www.afraidtoask.com/masturbate/WhenMasturbate.htm
http://www.nvsh.nl/Website_Engels/Texts/Sexual_Information/Basics/Skills_2.htm
http://www.sfsi.org/ask-us/ask258.html
Extracts from those sites:
"S elf-exploration and masturbation is common among children and in fact begins in the womb. For example, there have been reports by physicians of the ability to visualize by ultrasound male infants in the uterus touching themselves. [1]"
"Most children play with their sex organs from early life on. Even before we are born, inside the womb, we can hold and suck our penis or vagina. Babies have been observed to get all hot and sexy and have orgasms."
"Actually, we have seen sonograms of babies masturbating in the womb. So no, masturbation is no proof of molestation."
3) I still don't see how IVF which is meant to provide hope for infertile couples to create new life is actually not pro-creation.
4) Quoted facts about condoms:
Electron microscopy of condom latex has shown that there
are NO pores (sources include The Latex Condom: Recent Advances, Future
Directions. Family Health International, 1998, pg 9, book distributed by WHO as
part of the Male Latex Condom Manual.
Furthermore, latex condoms are
double dipped. I'm sure you will agree that the water molecule is smaller than
the HIV virus.
HIV virus = 0.1 microns (ie: 0.1 x10^-6 = 0.0000001
metres)
Water molecule = 0.2 nanomicrons (ie: 0.2 x 10^-9 = 0.0000000002
metres)
so this too is a blatant mistruth.
5) Some discussion regarding Celebrate Life workshop
http://www.spug.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79300
6) Condom 85%
http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2004/yax-394.htm
7) Some debates going on
http://tomorrow.sg/archives/2006/01/22/brainwashing_sexuality_talk_cele.html
Important
It is NOT the catholic believes that pissed me off. I'm a free thinker, However, by presenting catholic believes as if they are cold hard facts in order to deceive, confuse or force the religous believes on those who listen to them is wrong. The talk did not state that those are catholic believes. If the talk had done so, we would have taken it with an open heart and just let the speakers say whatever they want. However, they did not clearly state the source of their opinions and instead attempt to spread their believes to everyone attending the workshop by asking EVERYONE, regardless of their individual believes or religion, to write down things like "I must condemn masturbation and IVF", among many others. This is probably why people are making such a big fuss about such stuffs now.
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no i'm not.
the extra 1 hr shot is only for CNA to show students sitting in the audi listening to lecture for 5sec.
the extra 1 hr shot is only for CNA to show students sitting in the audi listening to lecture for 5sec.
Thanks for the post. We need first hand accounts of these events and people with brains to see through them.
enuff of sex talk. why would i ever want to ever record a video of it? I threw the book they gave me away already.
We must expose their lies!
See what Shianux did: http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/01/24/179/celebrate-lie-the-workshop/
See what Shianux did: http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/01/24/179/celebrate-lie-the-workshop/
i'm from ajc and i went through a similar experience two weeks ago or so. the footage cna took of aj was for the second batch of students who went for it. we had up to half of the first batch wanting to leave the school during the break. Many were caught and were not allowed to leave. Apparently the week after, the pccg teacher announced that had we told them we did not subscribe to their beliefs, they would have let us go.
as if anyone would have believed her.
as if anyone would have believed her.
wtf. jermey quoted my blog in newspaper today, posting my full name there. i'm damn pissed. he violated my rights and i never give him any permission. my blog is protected by creative commons you know? Ci bai.
At first, these assholes appear merely insane. After careful study,
the diabolical nature of their attack on self-esteem becomes
apparent. What they seek are sexually frustrated and ashamed
individuals to become drones in their money machine. Sexual
repression leads to religious ecstasy, shame leads to money in the collection plate. They are morally bankrupt control freaks. Onan forever!
the diabolical nature of their attack on self-esteem becomes
apparent. What they seek are sexually frustrated and ashamed
individuals to become drones in their money machine. Sexual
repression leads to religious ecstasy, shame leads to money in the collection plate. They are morally bankrupt control freaks. Onan forever!
This is what happened when 'small' overzealous and overenthuasiastic people do when they are given small task. I have personally experienced a supervisor who asked his people to make sure that there will be no leaves on the road around the hospital. All well until you realised that the hospital is lined by trees!!
Some people just do not know what to do with their 'power'.
Some people just do not know what to do with their 'power'.
so now we all know who's a likely candidate who most likely pa chu ching inside his toilet..
cool.
cool.
# posted by 
: 4/22/2006 7:13 PM
: 4/22/2006 7:13 PM
just something to say regarding masturbation...
you say "Masturbation allows human to satisfy their primitive need for sex when law and morale forbids." there exists a slight fallacy in the subsequent argument where you more or less imply that ppl who can't masturbate might become rapists - the so-called "need" for sex may not respond positively to cathartic releases such as masturbation, isn't it? masturbation could instead deepen a person's sex urges and in turn tempt him/her to live out some of those fantasies. satisfying an addict's hunger with greater doses usually leads to heightened tolerance and subsequently greater dependence on the addiction.
now i do not agree with the sex-talk fella's idea that masturbation is self-abuse either, although the sexual objectification of oneself could occur. one may begin to wonder more about his/her own genital dimensions, ability to get aroused, or even sexual performance. i guess these thoughts aren't necessarily harmful (and we ARE sexual beings anyway) but inordinate amounts of such fixations may harm a person's self esteem and even his/her relationships. therefore masturbation in this context is not too bad, but practitioners should take heed not to get addicted or fixated!
on to the point about foetal masturbation and the claim of an "instinct to masturbate". some problems with definition would arise: the foetus' stroking of its genitalia would most likely be in a very different context as compared to a teenager stroking his/her genitals. consider that the foetus has never seen any other human being before nor ever conceived of physical stimulation as sexually pleasurable - at the cognitive level, foetuses are definitely not masturbating for the same intents as a teenager. but an "instinct", you say! from what i gather, babies are born with some instincts: the sucking one, where any unoffensive object (i.e. not bad tasting or irritating to the skin) is placed near its mouth babies would suck on it; the grasping instinct, where babies grab suitably sized objects which are placed in their palms; and a few others. would you consider a baby's sucking its thumb to be a sort of "seductive instinct"? or a baby clinging to its mother's breast a sort of "groping instinct"? freud might claim these infants to be sexual... but such claims are still largely unproven and may never be provable until we can read an infant's mind. what we do know is that the foetus (unborn!) wouldn't be thinking about the same things when it strokes its genitals as a someone masturbating.
my last point regards "satisfying" that sexual urge: the belief is therefore that individuals ought to seek ways to "tame" this urge. consider the urge to binge on junk food. why eat so much? what will happen if i satisfy this urge too frequently? what are the consequences? similarly for the sexual urge: why be so caught up with sex? is this really healthy? what about the connection between sex and love? can sex be purely for pleasure? what are the plausible consequences of sex? there are many sociocultural and physiological reasons for and against abstinence, but this is where the individual must consider thoroughly his/her actions and make a responsible decision about sex. this is what i consider the pivotal curriculum in any self-respecting sex ed programme.
would you be a patient bf/gf waiting till marriage before consummation, a faithful lover enagaging in premarital sex with only one partner, a cosmopolitan swinger armed with prophylactics honing your sexual techniques, or a fuck-it and fuck-all darwinian attempting to spread your genes everywhere? the social reality of sex is so intriguing, isn't it? now THAT would be some sex ed programme!
you say "Masturbation allows human to satisfy their primitive need for sex when law and morale forbids." there exists a slight fallacy in the subsequent argument where you more or less imply that ppl who can't masturbate might become rapists - the so-called "need" for sex may not respond positively to cathartic releases such as masturbation, isn't it? masturbation could instead deepen a person's sex urges and in turn tempt him/her to live out some of those fantasies. satisfying an addict's hunger with greater doses usually leads to heightened tolerance and subsequently greater dependence on the addiction.
now i do not agree with the sex-talk fella's idea that masturbation is self-abuse either, although the sexual objectification of oneself could occur. one may begin to wonder more about his/her own genital dimensions, ability to get aroused, or even sexual performance. i guess these thoughts aren't necessarily harmful (and we ARE sexual beings anyway) but inordinate amounts of such fixations may harm a person's self esteem and even his/her relationships. therefore masturbation in this context is not too bad, but practitioners should take heed not to get addicted or fixated!
on to the point about foetal masturbation and the claim of an "instinct to masturbate". some problems with definition would arise: the foetus' stroking of its genitalia would most likely be in a very different context as compared to a teenager stroking his/her genitals. consider that the foetus has never seen any other human being before nor ever conceived of physical stimulation as sexually pleasurable - at the cognitive level, foetuses are definitely not masturbating for the same intents as a teenager. but an "instinct", you say! from what i gather, babies are born with some instincts: the sucking one, where any unoffensive object (i.e. not bad tasting or irritating to the skin) is placed near its mouth babies would suck on it; the grasping instinct, where babies grab suitably sized objects which are placed in their palms; and a few others. would you consider a baby's sucking its thumb to be a sort of "seductive instinct"? or a baby clinging to its mother's breast a sort of "groping instinct"? freud might claim these infants to be sexual... but such claims are still largely unproven and may never be provable until we can read an infant's mind. what we do know is that the foetus (unborn!) wouldn't be thinking about the same things when it strokes its genitals as a someone masturbating.
my last point regards "satisfying" that sexual urge: the belief is therefore that individuals ought to seek ways to "tame" this urge. consider the urge to binge on junk food. why eat so much? what will happen if i satisfy this urge too frequently? what are the consequences? similarly for the sexual urge: why be so caught up with sex? is this really healthy? what about the connection between sex and love? can sex be purely for pleasure? what are the plausible consequences of sex? there are many sociocultural and physiological reasons for and against abstinence, but this is where the individual must consider thoroughly his/her actions and make a responsible decision about sex. this is what i consider the pivotal curriculum in any self-respecting sex ed programme.
would you be a patient bf/gf waiting till marriage before consummation, a faithful lover enagaging in premarital sex with only one partner, a cosmopolitan swinger armed with prophylactics honing your sexual techniques, or a fuck-it and fuck-all darwinian attempting to spread your genes everywhere? the social reality of sex is so intriguing, isn't it? now THAT would be some sex ed programme!
I was shocked when i read all this. in the 21st century there are still ppl who teach that masturbation is wrong, that condoms are useless and only criminals watch porn? It's a discrace.
the only thing that I agree on is that it is VERY easy for a girl to get pregnant and you should never play with that risk for STDS also. Always wear a condom and enjoy yourselves. sex is good, nothing to be ashamed or feel bad for.
the only thing that I agree on is that it is VERY easy for a girl to get pregnant and you should never play with that risk for STDS also. Always wear a condom and enjoy yourselves. sex is good, nothing to be ashamed or feel bad for.
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: 5/09/2006 8:54 PM
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